When all you know about a position is the way it is caricatured you should avoid comment. Aside from the fact that we have always had a soft spot in our hearts for her character, there was a primary reason why the shows creators would probably want to keep her around for a while: Why kill off someone who is going to play such a crucial role in the finale? He and his wife actually had real world experience risking their necks for the sake of the gospel and giving the selves for themselves for the least of the lost in war torn Liberia in the late 90s. If that board doesnt see evidence of Bob relinquishing his power over this injured and vulnerable group of people in Ft Lauderdale and beyond, then they will have no choice but to release enough of the details to protect the Body from a fallen pastor who has no idea how dangerous he is to a people he claims to have loved. Are you really without sin in your life? So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. thou shalt not have moral failure with thy church women who arent thy wife, thus sayeth The Lord! Give me a break. Maybe I can help you with the math 42 months = 3.5 years 1260 days = 3.5 years. Youre a special woman. But that was a church that brought non-believers in by the busloads. A statement on the church's website reported the news: "On April 3, 2014, Bob Coy resigned as Senior Pastor of Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, effective immediately, after confessing to a moral failing in his life which disqualifies him from continuing his leadership role at the church he has led since its founding in 1985." Leadership made every effort to let the staff and church hear directly from leadership rather than rumor by calling meetings for Sunday, our source, who asked not to be identified, told us. 29 Brothers, I may say to you with confidence about the patriarch David that he both died and was buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. Find a church that could use your contribution of time and talent and let the mega house worry about itself. As a supportive friend, I have questions, too.. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? Ever. Neo Coral Ridge does not the same doctrinal position as CCFL. They have arrived at those conclusions with serious thought, study, prayer, and reliance on guidance from the Spirit of God and His scripture. What is 1,00 yrs to God? That is why Mark Davis & Clay heacocks leftthey saw this stuff and said enough is enough!! Be careful, any of us could be next thats true. Would I rather blindly go church shopping through the yellow pages OR maybe narrow the search to 4-5 churchs that were RECOMMENDED? Lots of folk come to a blog to vent. Here is what Acts 2 does to your literal 1,000 yrs. so they never addressed the dress of the women. I go by erunner as I dont know if people would know who I am if I went by Allan so even though my name is known I stick with the moniker. It was not readily available. Whats the big deal, so he diddled a few broads, werent they consenting adults, how can anyone judge, maybe they had an open marriage, comman people relax its only sex, it only last a few minutes, what is that, like less than 5% of all the other things hes doing for the church, leave the guy alone, I dont see any women complaining, didnt King David have a few dozen women standing in the wings waiting for their turn, and how bout Solomon, a few hundred to choose from, well dont read their works in your Bible then, and isnt every pastor guilty of adultery if you take Jesus words seriously, that to look upon a woman with lust youve already committed adultery, using this criteria shouldnt every pastor in America be fired, give the guy a break, hes a good teacher, everyone strays a little bit and has a little strange on the side, many wives know this and realize it doesnt mean anything, just a little release. Read some of the reports from that nightits all over the place in reputable sources. Im a wretched sinful person. Answer my question What do you disagree with Luther on? The woman told him "she had an experience with God and has found forgiveness" for Coy over his abuse. Hooked on porn for years. Probably ended about 4-5 yrs ago, so whoever was doing it afterwards- I have no knowledge of. I have no thoughts about his church pastors in that arena are a dime a dozen they can find some other untrained funny man to take his place.. Unlike many Protestant churches, which set up powerful boards of elders to oversee ministers, Calvary used a management style Smith called the "Moses method. You are stalling. Do we expose a fraud or recover a brother? Two of my three children still struggle with doubt in their faith and I can not believe our experience didnt have something to do with it. Blessed are all they that put their trust in him. God has not finished the work that He started in this man, and He will work His miracles to restore what we as people see doomed. Isnt it cute when we call it moral failure. I have no use for Macarthur but the info on your links is bogus. He had no reason to suspect that Jake would be an alcoholic. At times like this we as Christians need to be more like Jesus and have lots of compassion towards a man who at least for me taught me how to have a true relationship with God and no one can take that away from Bob. If we find ourselves taking joy in the sins of others we need to take a serious self inventory as we arent what we imagine we are and in need of forgiveness ourselves. How is this furthering the kingdom? And did you go to bed with them? 7 The cow and the bear shall graze; their young shall lie down together; and the lion shall eat straw like the ox. Documents show that Coral Springs cops sat on the accusations for months before dropping the inquiry without even interviewing Coy. It works so it is a kind of method of delivery now. At Smith's church, "you could come in jeans, and it didn't matter what your hair looked like or how long your beard was," says Thumma, the Hartford professor. come now and get real it is plain as day, that if you really read the Bible with all your heart you would know that the mark of the beast is a bar code stamped on your forehead. I will be giving more information as it is vetted. Many of the next generation of customizers started their career with Coddington. Bob did this, not me. Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. Diane Schuler, aka Aunt Diane, died in an accident. Here we are, with sicknesses, war, hate, famine, destruction world wide. if not you would be guilty of bearing false witness. ?..he was a FRAUD. Instead the idolaters slay the messenger. Now he was locked up in jail. Ill let the matter stand. 4given By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD.. 2016) Family; Parents: Not Available: Wife: Diane Coy (m. 1984, div. Time for dinner. Maybe more need to hear it. Why would they allow or risk the public seeing this crime scene being removed and altered? It was like everyone was in a daze. Martin Luthers Disciple says: So Gary, why do you bring up the Lutheran thing. How can you trust anyone at calvary anymore after you were lied to by Coy for years.he is disgusting.. To say he was loyal to diane is a joke..his kids will really be affected for ever.. Did he ever once think about his 1000 employees, did he ever once think about his kids, did he ever once think about what he was doing to Jesus or his wife, his family. Two thirds of the congregation will be seated already knowing. With MLD leading the way with his self righteous smug attitude! I think they had about 10 so far. Designer Chip Foose (Overhaulin') and fabricator Jesse James (Motorcycle Mania)[8] God will show love and mercy to whoever he wantsand it might just be all humans at some point. Reading Paiges comments really brought home for me the absolute horror for the wife of a pastor who falls in such a big way. It took our family years to recover from his actions, and I guess this all just brings it back. _____________________________________________________________________ Andy, you are completely wrong with this! Antonio. So you are surely Martin Luthers disciple. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. Power corrupts. The divorce file includes nearly 30 pages of documents related to their finances and settlements. We all know the scriptures and as a previous poster mentioned let he who is without sin cast the first stone, to that I would add, considering ourselves lest we also be tempted!. Let them tear eachother apart like wolves. It would be interesting to see how Bob spoke about this topic in his messages. I hadnt heard of any in my 30 years attending CC starting with CCCM in 1976 when I came to Christ. The earthly issue? You, however, are Martin Luthers disciple, so we know where to find the beliefs you swiped. Thank you, Nonnie for your prayers for my children! How pointing out all these passages that you freely spiritualize help your claim of a literal 1,000 yr earthly reign is beyond me. His church started with just 25 members in a Costa Mesa lot in 1965, but by the mid-2000s, it had grown to include hundreds of affiliated chapels around the nation and internationally plus a lucrative array of radio stations. Really? Read slowly. It pains me to see the enemy has won this battle, but know he will not win the war! Abraham the father of the Jewish nation and subsequently the Christian as well was promised a son and became frustrated over time and slept with his wifes servant, regardless of tradition, which lead to the birth of Ishmael an illegitimate child and penalty was that Ishmael would become the father of the Muslim nation. Antonio- its not pertinent to dwell on the sin itself and bring out every lurid detail of that sin for your viewing pleasure and for you to dwell in. Oh, he doesnt think that on the surface, but he knows what he is doing. Jean, this went on at a large church I attended for awhile and when I questioned it I was told it was a common practice, having what they called aKings Circle. You said you werent CC, and didnt know B Coy, but now your motive is clear, so youve been lying all along. in fact the lamb is lying with the lion, its to be taken spiritually. And when some were gone like that in recent years, it was probably said, they were troublemakers, or, they didnt respect the work of God, and so on and so on. We must forgive himit could happen to anyone and remember to watch your words,,,,,,dont ever say you would never do itbecause those who say it..always seem to fall in the area they say they would never God Bless Diane.the children and Pastor Bob and all the Calvary Ft. Lauderdale Families and everyone he affected.. BTW, Flynn, that might prove 3 1/2 years of tribulation, not 7. who have been chosen ACCORDING TO THE FOREKNOWLEDGE OF GOD THE FATHER, through the sanctifying work of the Spirit, to be obedient to Jesus Christ and sprinkled with his blood: Grace and peace be yours in abundance. By 1986, his church had outgrown the funeral parlor and attracted about 1,200 regulars to an Oakland Park chapel. My question was can you recommend a Biblically sound LOCAL church? Thats when the celebrity status began. Even in the chemically altered '70s music business, Coy's appetites were too voracious. Youre saying he was fired which is inaccurate. Im pretty sure if it had been men, that Coy would have got nuked at a higher temperature. This is a Christian blog? Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. Im more sympathetic to the people like Anonymous above than to Coy. 25 See, I have told you ahead of time. Unreal. As churchgoers held their hands up in ecstasy, Sauder read from Matthew and promised that Jesus was ready to heal. Am I hearing that part of fundraising project plan involved Bob and his wife putting a price on the biblical practice ( and requirement for elders) of hospitality, charging people to have dinner or lunch with them. I found it accidentally on Google. He can't be put in a position of power ever again," Newnham stressed. I appreciate what Alan wrote last night, and look forward to what he will continue to share. Why is that, exactly? Kassanndra Cantrell a lady from Tacoma, Washington, disappeared in 2020 without leaving behind much evidence. It seems like it must be bad because for a simple dalliance it usually goes unnoticed. 326 MICHAEL WHO MADE YOU MESSENGER?????????? Is all sin equal to God? We can all get through this. A CCFL employee posted it on my blog and I started asking questions all over the place and then published the question. The church clearly did not think this. Yes I do. They wanted spirituality but could never go back to their parents' churches. But I would bet that you wont find a man on here who had not looked at porn in one form or another and for sexual gratification thus all are guilty of fornication and adultery, for whosoever looks upon a woman to lust after her, has committed adultery in his heart -Jesus-. God knew from the beginning who would choose him or not choose him and based on what mans choice would be God chose man so predestination is mentioned but its according to his foreknowledge that he chose us as it clearly states in 1Peter 1:2. You are listening to Luther and Augustine. As I said yesterday, I am sure he looked with great anticipation for each encounter rolling it around in his mind. They will trample on the holy city for 42 months. , ; , -. According to Christianity Today, he'd been fired twice before for sexual misconduct, including once after getting caught having sex on church grounds, but kept getting his job back. Ill go first. Diane Schuler, her daughter Erin, and her three nieces also died in the crash. Thank you for the correction. Now, like all humbled sinners should, may he experience effective and redemptive compassion from those that love him. they will mention Israel 100 times for every mention of Jesus Christ. In other words, on any given day what looks like a bunch of anonymous posts are actually not. After the announcement, the congregation had a prayer and worship service. Gary, if you have an issue you can email me . Revelation 20:6. Is free will not involved in our salvation? Anonymous, if what you wrote is true, this is the most repulsive thing Ive read yet on this thread. Show me one person who has not or does not. one more thing. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. Sin is sin. Tell me why you need to be the first w news rather than respecting the church body and unity of faith and respecting that as a congregation, we need to be together to receive our family update. I actually felt bad for that new Pastor who was the Youth Pastor because He was not ready. I know for sure that I wouldt want my own sin, and hypocrisy exposed for the whole world to see. CCFTL knew this could break wide open by Friday night/Saturday morning. ", Anne Marie Giri, a churchmember who was present at the announcement, stated that although the she was disappointed, we must not put our faith in human beings. 'Jesus Revolution' leaves out the tough stuff but gets the music right, Sacked chaplain to appeal after losing employment tribunal case. I might add, and only because I know you dont know this, but it was Jesus in the gospels who told us that he has already bound Satan. Bob knew all the more well what he was doing, there wasnt some demon forcing him into this action. Or are they not equally guilty. To all who insist he honorably initiated his resignation: His last fb post (Thursday at 3:37) was I cant wait for beach baptisms next month! Does that sound like a man who plans to end his pastorate that same evening? Can we guess? We took our kids out of the pool at 4 PM to make a 6 PM service. Its not slander to point out severe doctrinal errors. But this situation hurts my heart so much. They know it is wrong of them to commit adultery if they are married, they know its wrong to steal, wrong to hurt other people etc and they know its right to give money to help the poor and they know its right to be a good Samaritan etc. Over two decades, Coy had built a small storefront church into Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, a 25,000-member powerhouse that packed Dolphin Stadium for Easter services while Coy hosted everyone from George W. Bush to Benjamin Netanyahu. These teachings which give rise to anti-Semitism and go against Gods word which says, I will bless those who bless you and curse those who curse you, then yes that is garbage! Dont blame the press. MLD this is interesting and the first ive heard of this. 6 The wolf shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the young goat, and the calf and the lion and the fattened calf together; and a little child shall lead them. Dusty you make an excellent point. Night all (everyone whos still up). I have to agree. I still recall your attitudes when Jimmy Kempner got exposed for solicitation of a woman for sexa woman who turned out to be undercover officer for the Tustin Police. , ; , . To know love is the greatest..certainly the church body has some seeking to do. He would simply confessown it all publiclywrite a new book on his time offand marvel at Gods grace toward him. I hope you reconsider your life and realize there is a more excellent way to live which God wants to give you. Sometimes theres love and we become lovers for a time and sometimes its just sex for fun and enjoyment, so face the facts men by nature are not monogamous! Coy has also been dragged through legal battlefields since his resignation from the church. I suspect that the laughs made him realize it worked..got more people in and maybe it became like a treadmill that you can never get off of. When, oh when will the sin sniffing and salivating over someones moral failurecome to an end? Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . 20:3 and threw him into the pit, and shut it and sealed it over him, What kind of a pit will hold a non bodied being like Satan. And may your little friends who warm themselves in the fires of scoffing and mockery take heed as well! After all fired makes for a much better scandal then resigned. If anything, this week, this place, has attempted to bring some good, some lessons, some encouragement, and some healing to those caught in that wreckage, and I include myself in that group. Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? Coy Randall Gibbs (December 9, 1972 - November 6, 2022) was an American NASCAR driver, assistant coach for the Washington Redskins, and co-owner of Joe Gibbs Racing. Lets wait and see how many he harassed and pressured. God is able to do that. Carry on. But there is a big difference. I do not judge him. Blogging by nature is a difficult medium and it can be problematic at times to understand the intent of a poster. Right now, my concern is for the wife, the children, and the congregation. This is not good, and this is what can happen. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. Bob, The Bob Coy topic has gone to seed as has this thread so it is a good parking place for just some general conversation it doesnt intrude on the newer threads. YOU are wrong. When Jesus said The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. he was not saying. Who made you Coys torpedo? The blog host has spent the week publishing positive, restorative articles after the news broke. I had not heard it before today and I am glad I did. Nero was certainly anti-Christ though I personally would not ascribe the definite article. He believes the false gospel of lordship salvation which cannot save. "There were no other allegations," he says. ", Like Smith, though, Coy used his relaxed persona to sell a deeply conservative brand of Christianity. Make your own application, Bob wrote: Ive studied John Macarthur for quite some time and know him to be a wolf in sheeps clothes. It is just people like we PhoenixPreacher-ites who dont follow the rules that leave. Tracked down at the bar on a recent weeknight, the well-dressed ex-pastor looks no different from the days when he preached to thousands of followers. Hugh are you trolling or is this some sort of gag and spoof? I have witnessed decades of the David example being taught by CC pastors to justify restoration of sexually sinning leaders. Coys church is listed by Outreach magazine as the 14th largest church in the U.S., and one of the fastest growing. As they sank into plush, arena-style seats and flipped open well-thumbed copies of the Bible, Coy's followers quickly noticed something was very wrong. Even through my anger and hurt, I know that it is just a sin, and that they are no worse than me when I lie or steal. Theres also much to say about when they began having auctions at the church. Nowadays we are mostly committed to serious dialogue and ongoing relationships. This is between God, his family and him. I can see this except for one very big deal. I like Bob, I served there for over a decade and he has proclaimed from the pulpit he struggles in the area of pride and women. Michael, I see you shook the tree and some nuts fell out. Lol, they remind me of the dwarves in The Last Battle, who couldnt see the reality of Aslans return because they were so locked up in their dark world (help yourself to the symbolism there mr. Calvins disciple, plenty there for you)! I was exposed to pornography at a very early age. Coy resigned fromCalvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale, which he founded in 1985 and grew to become one of the largest churches in the nation, in April 2014. Pure speculation on my part. note the opening line Amillennialism is the mainstream Christian end-times theology. Dusty, no, Steve will tell you theres nothing but good fruit and clear skies and smooth sailing. Bad choices can entrap us, but with God we can hope for healing in this situation. well obviously your information is wrong. He left his youth Pastor to become Pastor. Im just sick of it.Stop already, close this piece of garbage sight down and stop digging up peoples sin, and causing division in the body. They are serious brothers and members of the body of Christ and you should give honor if you want to be treated with honor. Looks like the night shift worked some OT last night.. PS He always said that he didnt want to turn anyone away. A man who cheats does so because he is a cheater and has no respect for his wife. No thats not a fulfillment of prophecy, that was just those pesky Zionists, who made that happen, no it wasnt God fulfilling his word and the prophecies in the O.T concerning Israel. If they were told that , it is no secret where they are. Thanks mld. I now wonder how long leadership has been aware of issue. Michael said, Who is his congregation? Zero. The best article Ive read on the subject thus far! Are we to perform a witch hunt now? Now the Holy Spirit is prompting me to pray for him and all of a sudden, the anger has been replaced by compassion. You sound like someone that isnt going to listen and repeat blindly without A deeper understanding, youre exactly what the body needs, I did not come to bring peace, but a sword Jesus. Im Glad God is in charge and not most Christians, I guess most of us would not have let Peter preach at pentacost so soon after denying Christ! He claims his record as pastor at Calvary Chapel was unblemished by sexual harassment or molestation claims. I personally experienced an unfaithful fianc prior to the wedding and she was very involved in the church so I can sympathize as well as empathize on this issue. We were very involved. God is forgiving, you should be too. Lets come together as a body and shame the devil. Even though Bode needed surgery, he wasnt anxious about it. Hugh. He can't be put in a position of power ever again.". And his sermons have been the same blame the Christian, God is blameless.. stop whining sermons.. for what , 20 years? All of the women he did this to were also demonized as he tried to cover his sin. Anyone know? So Hugh, I think you and others twist scriptures right out of Jesus mouth to make a Hal Lindsey / Chuck Missler / Tim LaHaye point. About half a year later, the victim visited the police department and said she had an "experience with God" and has found forgiveness for Coy. Chuck Smith did it to mehe got diagnosed with cancer a month laterdied a year later to the day. So now Im not saved? I think quoting one of the ten commandments isnt politically correct. I am pointing out the fact that giving flawed man too much power and authority is corrupting in both politics and religionno matter how specially anointed they claim they are or how endorsed they are by Chuck Smith etc. The reason for the resignation is a "moral failing," according to Calvary Chapel leaders, as reported by the Christian Post. is the 1000 years? Your silence at the question presented to you is not a projection but a resounding answer to your hypocrisy, and the points I present are nowhere addressed, except to say Im an angry man, didnt Jesus speak of righteous indignation, but what did he say of cowards and hypocrites? When we personify we learn to practice loving God and others as we live in His presence as we live together with others. But peace to you anyways. If so how can one person handle it all? Bob Coy Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale (CCFL) is an evangelical, charismatic megachurch in Florida, with over 20,000 worshipers attending on average. My information is that he doesnt have a snowballs chance in hell of coming back. 1. Have you surveyed all men to know that I am the only one. Lori, I cant help but remember the hell you went through and how long it lasted. By now we should have learned how to come to these matters. Did she die? Andy, Lets try this show me 2 things; 1.) [9] Did Jesus only die for Christians? Wake up to the day's most important news. This is how anyone who wants to harm them must die. This man was struggling with sin. 18 Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. 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